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Oct. 21st, 2005

Can someone else take this and apparently explain this logical intelligence to me? Because.. I'm really confused. I don't like to be below average. I know it sounds incredibly incredibly conceited, but I also thought my IQ was higher, and because of that, I don't trust the quiz. I need someone else to take this and see if they are considered "below average" in logical intelligence as well. Honestly, I don't think I got a single question incorrect, so I fail to see how on earth they could consider my logical intelligence to be lacking.

Your IQ Is 135

Your Logical Intelligence is Below Average

Your Verbal Intelligence is Genius

Your Mathematical Intelligence is Genius

Your General Knowledge is Genius

So, I had two very different, very smart friends to take the quiz, and this is what we came up with:

thisgirliknow4: hows your logical intelligence?
Sexy Ollie Wood: below average
thisgirliknow4: !!!
thisgirliknow4: wtf!
thisgirliknow4: at the risk of sounding totally conceited, WE DO NOT HAVE BELOW AVERAGE LOGICAL INTELLIGENCE! THE QUIZ MUST BE WRONG!

thisgirliknow4: hows your logical intelligence?
ALH02e: Says I got a 120 with below average logic
thisgirliknow4: wtf!
thisgirliknow4: where is our logical flaw?
thisgirliknow4: or is the TEST the flaw
ALH02e: Yeah, maybe not enough questions, or just they expect the wrong answers
thisgirliknow4: I just dont understand
thisgirliknow4: honestly, I don't think I got a single question incorrect
ALH02e: I think it just says below average all the time
thisgirliknow4: buttheads!

Okay, because I am a conceited idiot who won't rest, I went back and took the quiz again. This time, I changed one answer at a time to see if I could score any higher on the test/in the logical intelligence. Guess what? I cannot. I chose the correct answer for every single question, and there isn't a way to score higher. So it's stuck on logical intelligence being below average. FIX YOUR QUIZ, MAN!

"If Melissa posts a quiz, she must be bored"
which of these is true?
"If Melissa is bored, she will post a quiz"
"If Melissa is not bored, she will not post a quiz"
"If Melissa doesn't post a quiz, she is not bored"



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Oct. 21st, 2005 04:22 pm (UTC)
135 is too low for you? O_O
Oct. 21st, 2005 04:25 pm (UTC)
gifted cutoff is 130, so I knew it had to be atleast that high. I guess I just assumed it was higher.

can you take the quiz and tell me what I'm thinking of incorrectly with the logical intelligence thing?
Oct. 21st, 2005 05:12 pm (UTC)
Yeah, but 150 is SUPER smart. 130-140 is 90% of gifted students.
Oct. 21st, 2005 05:14 pm (UTC)
yeah. boo.
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Oct. 21st, 2005 04:51 pm (UTC)
my iq was tested at around 140, and i got much lower on this test, even though i knew the answers to almost every question
so according to this test I am borderline retarded.
Oct. 21st, 2005 04:57 pm (UTC)
this. test. sucks. It's completely invalid!
Oct. 21st, 2005 07:02 pm (UTC)
Melissa. A real IQ test takes something on the order of several hours to complete. It has many different sections, all of which were created for the express purpose of testing different reasoning abilities.

If you REALLY went into an internet test expecting it to be both fair and accurate, I'd hazard a guess that the IQ it gave you is too high. =P
Oct. 21st, 2005 07:03 pm (UTC)
whoa. okay. stop with the condescending.

Obviously I dont believe that the IQ test is completely accurate
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Oct. 21st, 2005 05:11 pm (UTC)
Nope, you got the same as I. It's the max possible.
Oct. 22nd, 2005 01:30 am (UTC)
You may have told me not to post on your threads anymore, but if you really want to know, and IQ of 135 is meaningless unless you know the mean IQ of that test and it's standard deviation. Basically, IQ is not measured as a % correct, but in how you perform against everyone else taking the test. A 135 on the WAIS or Stanford Binet is in the gifted range, but those scores are only meaningful when compared to the thousands of other people who took the test. Simply having a score of anything is worthless in upon itself. Secondly, if they're using the data provided by IQ test makers to give you your score, it would still be totally worthless because those IQ tests have to be administrated the same way each time. Otherwise, differences in scores could be due to different administrations, other variables, etc. No IQ test has been properly given to a big range of people on a computer, so regardless of everything else, no IQ test given on a computer has any real meaning.

IQ does not actually decrease as you get older as previously replied. In the other Stanford Binet, their method of calculating IQ was to take the age range of questions you got right and divide by your real age. If you got 15 year old questions right at the age of 10, your IQ was (15/10) * 100= 150. The problem with that is the older you get, the less new things you can learn. There is an age where you learn division, for instance, but you stopped learning the types of things measured on IQ tests at a certain time. BUT, your age keeps increasing, which is the demoninator of the equation. So your IQ drops, but you don't get "dumber" The new way of measuring IQ is comparing yourself to everyone else in your age group, and that's pretty constant over time.
Oct. 22nd, 2005 01:45 am (UTC)
I can see you getting below average in the logic area. You're really not that logical at all...
Oct. 22nd, 2005 03:08 am (UTC)
there is no possible way to get another score in the logic area.
Oct. 22nd, 2005 05:30 am (UTC)
Says the one who scored below average :P
Oct. 22nd, 2005 01:48 am (UTC)
Actually reading some of the replies, I want to say more.

Depending on the test you take, IQ is calculated differently. So comparing IQ across different tests is often invalid without knowing the mean and sd of each test.

Taking the test more than once increases your IQ score by about 3 points on average, but obviously you don't get 3 points smarter. You get better at taking the same test. The average range of IQ is +- 3 points on the Stanford Binet and WAIS.

Human error in scoring and testee issues like mood and fatigue and motivation effect scores.

IQ tests typically measure ability to figure things out (what Melissa says) AND general knowledge (what Melissa denies). IQ tests typically involve 12-15 different tests measuring verbal and spatial tasks. some timed, some not timed. Some practical, some abstract. IQ is considered the aggregate of a wide range of different abilities. There is even a test to measure social conformity that is averaged in.

IQ is very inconsistant in children because they're learning new ways to think about things (like Melissa said), and IQ is much more stable around 15-16 and older because we really stop thinking of new ways to think about things. Adults generally get better at memory as they older, but not so great at learning new types of thinking.

IQ test measure what people think should be intelligence, not so much what each of us think intelligence should be.

They do take many hours and incorporate many items.

Tests are normalized on many ages. It's not just 18 and older now. It used to be, but they changed that. The age ranges go like 18-23, 24-30, 30-35, etc.

Adults do not typically score lower than they did as kids these days. Kids in general score higher if you compare everyone to one age group because each generation of kid is (in theory) more advanced. Think of how complex your environment is compared your parent's when they were growing up. Logically, we learn almost nothing by comparing dads to kids. This isn't fair, so we measure how smart your dad is compared to other dads. IQ is measured within each age group.

IQ tests measure the same thing for kids and adults. They have mostly the same tests: Verbal and nonverbal(spatial) abilities. The items are a little different though.
Oct. 22nd, 2005 03:08 am (UTC)
thanks for the insight.
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