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Aug. 14th, 2005

I had a very productive morning, and a somewhat less than productive afternoon, including freaking falling asleep at a friends house. What am I, five?

Didn't get to see Sara as planned, and didn't get to see Aras as planned. I did however get to see Family Guy. Eee, I love that show.

The reason for the entry

Deborah (my thirteen year old sister) and I recently got a bunch of books from the Friends of the Library gift shop at the main branch. We were talking about the books over dinner, and she mentioned that even though she was the same age as the Baby-Sitters Club, that she still felt younger. I said that I did, too. My mom said, "because they are more responsible than you are?" Okay, ha ha, mom, but seriously. First of all, they are very responsible. I don't think that in the books they act 13 at all. My sister is 13. My sisters friends are 13. They aren't irresponsible, and they are probably the more mature, MORE respomsible ones of their grade/age. So in part one, reason one that they feel older than me...the Baby Sitters Club acts old.

But as a responsible 20 year old (I think I tend to act my age, generally), I still look up to them. When I read about them, it still seems like they are older than me. Now, I probably read my first BSC book when I was.. seven or eight. While I stopped reading them as "my books" around 15 or 16, they still seemed older than me. Is that because, even though they didn't really age, they kind of grew up a few years ahead of me? I mean, technically, these girls were 13 even in 1989. Kind of like how Harry Potter is now.. 24 or 25ish. The books when they were a certain age were written a long time ago. Does that contribute to the factor? What about the fact that I originally looked up to them? Does that still put me in the 7-8 year old stance when I read about them now?

(I had more ideas and thoughts about this, but somehow lost them)

If you've read the books EVER, please comment and let me know your thoughts. If you've read the books recently, or was so obsessed that you remember everything, DEFINITELY comment, I'd really like to know your opinion.

(Same thing with Sweet Valley Twins, but not with Sweet Valley KIDS. Maybe because I started reading the Twins series before I went back and read some of the KIDS series when I was already older)
(I dunno about HP. Still trying to sort that out in my head)

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gegenschein
Aug. 15th, 2005 03:20 am (UTC)
The BSC girls ALWAYS felt older to me. Especially Mary-Anne. When I got older, I didn't understand how they could write in such a mature, romantic relationship for a 12/13 year old. Their relationship was very much a college-sounding relationship, not that of a pre-teen's. I think that out of all of them, Karen Brewer (Kristy's lil sis) was the closest to being true to age, as a seven year old. My favorite Little Sister book was when she thought her neighbor was a witch!

I felt the same with SVT. What's funny is that I remember the description of the girls as having a "perfect size six figure," and I always modeled myself off of that description, that that's the size I should be. HOWEVER... nowadays that description should probably be rewritten to say "a perfect size zero figure" based on what is considered to be perfect these days.

I think I thought that SVKIDS were truer to real age, but still felt that they were too interesting and mature to be real.
thisgirliknow
Aug. 15th, 2005 03:29 am (UTC)
I loved the witch book! I didn't read many of the BSCL Little Sister books, just a few of them when Deborah was into them, but that was a great book. I think I'm going to change my LJ name to "Morbidda Destiny" for a little while.

I liked how the SV books weren't always real life. I mean, they had magic in them occasionally. I always liked those. Like where they grow up for Christmas one year. Also, I cannot even think of the times that those two have been so close to death. Either southern california is a LOT different than Florida, or they took a bunch of liberty there.

I always wanted their perfect "size six figure" too. Plus, I always wanted a dimple in my left cheek like they did. They always seemed like someone everyone wanted to be. So pretty, so popular, perfect family...

And then I thought that in the BSC they tried TOO hard to be different. I mean, everyone had their "thing" that was different about them. Diabetes, divorce, black, Jewish, dead parent, Japanese. That in its own way was a little unrealistic. It's like Ann M Martin wanted a sample of everyone.
katiethewriter
Aug. 15th, 2005 03:57 am (UTC)
Oh my God! Morbidda Destiny! Haha that brings back memories.

You know that Ann M Martin wanted a bit of everyone so that every girl could have someone they could connect to. (I was a bit of Claudia and a bit of Mary Anne, myself...) I never had the feeling that she was working too hard to have all these different kids... Then again, I never really thought about it until now.
thisgirliknow
Aug. 15th, 2005 04:26 am (UTC)
I was mostly Mary Anne until Abby came along (Okay, so I'm not that outgoing but HELLO Jewish girl with allergies. Of course, I always wanted to be Dawn or Stacey.
katiethewriter
Aug. 15th, 2005 03:52 am (UTC)
I always felt like they were so much older than me, no matter how old I was. I started reading them at about in 3rd grade, and was still kinda reading them in freshman/sophomore year, so yeah. Pretty much same age span. But I always felt like they were so much older. And think about this. Jessi and Mallory were 11, and I still felt like they were way older. Especially the main 5, Kristy, Mary Anne, Dawn, Claudia, and Stacey, always felt like such smart and responsible girls. I used to want to be one of them.

Ah, the eighties. Gotta love 'em! (I still have all my old ones in Mom's office. Mostly so if any kids want to borrow them they can. I don't think anyone's ever borrowed them...)
shaynester
Aug. 15th, 2005 03:58 am (UTC)
I think it's because the books aren't real... like what parents would really let their 11 and 13 year-olds fly off to California by themselves, even if they were staying with one of the kid's fathers? And I'm not entirely sure I would let a 13-year-old (and definitely not an 11-year-old) stay alone with my kids if they were really young.
negativeneve
Aug. 15th, 2005 04:10 am (UTC)
Hehe, I think you're thinking about this a little too much :)
beckyaya
Aug. 15th, 2005 07:46 am (UTC)
I'm thinking that they wanted the characters to act as role models, so that in a couple years when the readers started to babysit/deal with smaller children, they'd be more responsible about it. I remember wanting to babysit so I could make one of those Kid Kits (isn't that what they were called?). I guess they made them sound older so that readers could look up to them, yet still identify with them. Or else they don't have any concept of how 13 or 16 year olds act.

It's kind of like how when we were kids, we thought adults had it ALL TOGETHER & knew everything. Now that we're adults, we're like "WTF! I have no idea what I'm doing!"

Oh, & I'm totally Claudia.

Oh, & I named my rabbit after a character in Sweet Valley High. His name was Lila.
thisgirliknow
Aug. 15th, 2005 02:34 pm (UTC)
"his" -- nice. Lila the drag queen :)
(my car is a girl named Bob)

ex_lasunshin58
Aug. 15th, 2005 11:17 am (UTC)
My sister and I loved BSC! We had all of the books. Did you know Ann M Martin didn't write them all?? She gave story outlines to others and they wrote them.

The original books are worth so much money! There are some communities on LJ for the BSC.

I wanted to dress like Claudia Kishi!!
thisgirliknow
Aug. 15th, 2005 02:39 pm (UTC)
If the original books are worth money, I'm rich! We have so so so many of them.

I didn't know that, about Ann M Martin, though it makes me sad. I always thought she was a cut above Francine Pascal (the person who claims fane for Sweet Valley, but didn't write them all).

I loved Claudia's outfits too, but knew I would never have the courage to wear them. They were also a little outdated. I remember in one book Stacey looked really cool, wearing an oversized sweater over leggings, and me the 7th grader was thinking "that's SO 80s and 90s" -- in 7th grade the style belonged to tiny "baby" tees and wide leg pants, basically the opposite.
ex_lasunshin58
Aug. 15th, 2005 02:42 pm (UTC)
If you have the original books BEFORE they changed the covers, they are worth ALOT. To this day...my sister and I call filet mignon Fil-ET MiG-NON just the way Kristy did when they went to the Hard Rock Cafe in NYC to visit Stacey!
LOL.

thisgirliknow
Aug. 15th, 2005 02:55 pm (UTC)
yay! It's so cool to find a person that remembers all the weird details like I do :)

They pfficially changed the covers in book 89... so none of the ones after that I have the old covers for, obviously. I'd say before book 89 (Kristy and the Diapers or something like that) I have about 80 of the books, and maybe 20 Mysteries and super specials -- and several copies of some of them.

I don't think I'd consider selling them (except for maybe the ones I have two copies of).. but how much is "ALOT"?
ex_lasunshin58
Aug. 15th, 2005 02:57 pm (UTC)
I don't really know. I just read that somewhere that original covers were very rare and coveted. so I would assume a collector would pay $$ for them.
thisgirliknow
Aug. 15th, 2005 02:57 pm (UTC)
http://cgi.ebay.com/The-Baby-Sitters-Club-46-Book-Lot-SC_W0QQitemZ7992201103QQcategoryZ279QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

6.21 for forty six books.. when atleast some of them are the old covers... maybe you just have to find the right collectors.
ex_lasunshin58
Aug. 15th, 2005 03:01 pm (UTC)
oy vey...well at least you have the memories...which are priceless!
thisgirliknow
Aug. 15th, 2005 03:24 pm (UTC)
Still makin memories. I just read Babysitters Summer Vacation ( at Camp Mohawk ) for the first time ever. It quickly skyrocketed to one of my favorites (I love how they intentionally misprounce the lake name so many times1)
other faves are
Stacey and the Bad Girls
Mary Anne and the Bad-Luck mystery
Dawn's Big Sleepover
Mallory On Strike
Jessi's Secret Language

Man, now I want to read all those again. ::puts down Jane Eyre::
ex_lasunshin58
Aug. 15th, 2005 03:26 pm (UTC)
Too funny!!!
subjectivity
Aug. 15th, 2005 05:16 pm (UTC)
No. If the original books are worth money, then I'M rich. :P
thisgirliknow
Aug. 16th, 2005 12:26 am (UTC)
Many of them were mine. Book #67 came out when I was in fourth grade, as a landmark. So, definitely any books after that were bought by me or Deborah (though I doubt Deb got into them before they started changing the covers)
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