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Looks like Anthropology is a bust. While the department is sympathetic to "non-traditional" students, the College of Arts and Sciences is absolutely not. All of my classes would take place during my work day, and no classes are offered online or at night. At all. Because currently my school hours need to work around my work hours, this major is now not possible.

I looked up majors that I'd be interested in that have evening classes (not as easy of a feat as it seems) and I've come up with two:

- Educational Leadership and Policy Studies
- Urban and Regional Planning

Any thoughts?

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lizblizz
Jun. 18th, 2008 07:54 pm (UTC)
Not to be pessimistic, but judging on how UF runs its schedules, I think it's going to be very hard for you to finish a major without taking day classes. UF's anthropology major did offer a couple courses in the evening, but those same courses repeated every semester. There were probably three or four that were available in the evening, and they just alternated semesters.

Realistically, you're going to need at least 30 credits of courses within your major, right? Odds are that not all of those classes are going to be offered in the evening, regardless of the major. I could be wrong since I know nothing about FSU's system, but I think you need to talk to an advisor and make sure that the two majors left above will be able to be completed through night classes.

What are your plans after you earn a degree anyway? Are you going to continue in the job you're in, or actually work within your degree? I have no idea what the above degrees mean or what their functionality is, but I will say that if you continued with Anthropology, you would need to continue with a Masters as well if you wanted to actually work in the field. Anthro is one of those worthless majors without a Masters or Ph.D, depending on the branch within Anthro you choose.

Do you have any interest in those majors at all?


thisgirliknow
Jun. 18th, 2008 08:22 pm (UTC)
I have substantial interest in both of those majors, and plenty more.

I have no idea what I want to do.

I do intend on going to Grad school. Ironically, I intend to not work while getting my Master's... and that's where the night classes are offered.

I've been in contact with an adviser from each department
lizblizz
Jun. 18th, 2008 09:19 pm (UTC)
You seem to be defensive, and I didn't mean for my comment to create defensiveness.

It seems like it will be incredibly hard to choose a major if you have no idea what you want to do in the future, but I know it's not your choice to start in the Fall so I guess that's just the cards you're dealt. If you're planning to go to grad school anyway, it won't really matter because most programs will admit you despite whatever undergraduate degree you had (although that isn't the case for everything of course).

What have the advisers told you? Are those programs both clear to be finished through night classes? That wasn't clear in your entry, if so.
schnamara
Jun. 19th, 2008 04:41 am (UTC)
Here's my take:
As an undergrad, I had a lot of group work, and was quite busy during the day. As a graduate student, I am substantially less busy (first semester excluded - that was on 'oh shit! this is hard!' adjustment period). My graduate program caters a lot to people who work full time jobs. They offer a lot of distance learning courses, and most classes are recorded, which even if you're attending the class in person, is convenient. I'm sure this varies by field of study, etc. but you should take it into consideration.
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thisgirliknow
Jun. 18th, 2008 08:24 pm (UTC)
Funny how people think that. Not that it wouldn't be a good career choice, but I don't see how Urban and Regional Planning wouldn't be...

http://www.planning.org/careers/field.htm
chapstickqueen
Jun. 18th, 2008 08:32 pm (UTC)
I personally would be more interested in Urban and Regional Planning.
I think you should speak with an advisor about the feasibility of completing a degree with all night classes. While I know every major is different, I tended to notice that in both criminology and sociology, night classes were offered, but rarely were they the core required classes.
brittdreams
Jun. 18th, 2008 08:50 pm (UTC)
I am biased towards URP. I actually consider doing a master's in urban planning when I was looking at geography programs. (In fact, I'd tell you to major in geography but I doubt they have enough night classes.)

I guess the question is this: do you want to take a bunch of planning classes or a bunch of education courses? Rumor has it (at least at UGA) that education classes are easy though they have a lot of groupwork which can be annoying. That said, our nation is going to be in serious need of educational leadership in the near future.

Another way to look at it: What do you want to study in graduate school? Which major will give you the best training for that?

Final thoughts: Could you attend another university that offers more online classes?
tally_cat
Jun. 19th, 2008 12:50 pm (UTC)
Just from the perspective of someone who has been a "non-traditional" student since day 1 of beginning at FSU (and every other school I've attended), I can tell you what I picked up along the way. I was unable to find a single major where there wouldn't be at least one to two daytime courses required. There was just no shuffling around that. I ended up having to only take three or so daytime classes.

Unfortunately, since I finished my undergraduate work at FSU, the budget has become much tighter... Enrollment caps have been placed on universities statewide, community colleges are picking up the slack for students who can't get into universities, and more and more community colleges are offering 4-year degree programs. Otherwise, students just won't be able to get their Bachelor's degrees. As higher education systems in the state are tightening the collective belt around spending, it's becoming clear that the universities are having to place more emphasis on post-baccalaureate programs.

That isn't to say that they're going to stop offering undergraduate courses; rather, that the emphasis for non-traditional students (extra staff who teach more/smaller courses at night) will be placed on graduate programs - - even more so than we've been previously accustomed. Being a non-traditional student in the undergraduate setting has become incredibly difficult; and, over the course of changes in the last year, it has become almost improbable.

I do wish you luck as you march on towards the degree. I definitely remember how terribly frustrating it was - and I was doing it when it was easier to work out. I was upfront and blunt with the folks in the Social Work program, after spending two terms practically killing myself to try to make my schedule work...and, in the end, while the Dean wanted me in the program, we reached the conclusion that it just wouldn't mesh with my work schedule. So, I moved on. I had the same thing happen with Psychology. In the end, I just made my minor my major and picked a new minor. Things worked out; but it was an odd road to get there. What I learned through trial and error, and what turned out to be my saving grace, is that talking to the Dean's Assistant in program's you are interested in can make a BIG difference. Chances are, that assistant has seen every course offered in the program - and knows the likelihood of whether or not there will be/you could get into a night or alternative class offerings. Beyond that, I've found that Dean's assistants typically have the power to override course stops and get you into classes that are "Closed" for registration, which is also a big help.
thisgirliknow
Jun. 19th, 2008 12:59 pm (UTC)
Thank you thank you thank you for that wealth of information! Hopefully I'll be able to get this worked out somehow and get a feasible schedule that doesn't make me sacrifice my normal-hours job. I'll keep in mind about Dean's Assistants.
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