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Hillary says she's staying in the race. I think this is an ill move in the world of politics, but it's not entirely her fault that I'm so annoyed by this. It's also really bothersome to me that the Superdelegates won't choose their candidates and choose a candidate to compete for the Democratic party. The level of frustration is high for two reasons:

The first one is lesser, but by no means unimportant:
  • The Super delegates are likely to lean with the majority, giving Obama victory! And you guys know how much I love and respect that man.
The second one is huge, and it's not only frustrating but embarrassing:
  • By continuing to have Hillary and Obama compete against each other, we are dividing ourselves. Republicans will find us in a much more conquerable state if we've already split ourselves as a party. By smearing the personal attributes of our candidates, we are giving McCain fuel to burn whichever candidate is ultimately decided upon by the Democratic party. The issues will seem to matter less, because everything that is heard about the Democrats is in the form of a personal attack. We won't have a chance to repair the world if we cannot behave civilly and in the interest of the causes we claim to hold so dear. At this point I see NO reason to wait for the convention, and hate to see a political platform that claims it longs for peace on earth being so hostile and caustic.

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ellie_kay
May. 7th, 2008 06:59 pm (UTC)
you talk about the second one like it hasn't happened yet.
thisgirliknow
May. 7th, 2008 07:04 pm (UTC)
it'll only get worse :(

I bet you are so loving this.
ellie_kay
May. 7th, 2008 07:09 pm (UTC)
pretty much.

although whoever wins the presidency, i won't be happy. mccain is just the lesser of three evils (heh)

i'm just so tired of politicians.
lizblizz
May. 7th, 2008 09:11 pm (UTC)
As a fellow Obama supporter, I certainly agree. Leave it to Hillary to be too stubborn to see that staying in the raise is just hurting the Democrats chances.
thisgirliknow
May. 8th, 2008 06:06 am (UTC)
I really hope she doesn't adopt an "If I can't have it, no one can" sort of attitude, or hope that Obama loses to McCain so that she looks better ("If we'd only elected Hillary...")
teenonfire4lord
May. 8th, 2008 02:43 am (UTC)
As a conservative independent, I totally agree that Hillary is hurting the Republican cause. Between that and the fact that I don't think the nation is QUITE ready for a black or woman president, I think McCain has the best chances. However, I do think the work Obama has done has rapidly advanced that readiness, and Obama is likely to be the president in 2012 if McCain doesn't have a wildly popular first term.

However, and I'm sure this won't surprise you, I take issue with you saying that "we won't have a chance to repair this world" if the Dems don't pull it together. McCain is more than capable of fixing whatever divides the election leaves. I once remember someone saying that McCain was by the far the most electable Republican they've ever seen.

Who said that? Oh, just this girl I know.
thisgirliknow
May. 8th, 2008 05:45 am (UTC)
in "repairing the world" I might draw attention to the war situation, which McCain would continue indefinitely. I don't think killing = repairing. And getting us into more debt is also not the repairing we need.
teenonfire4lord
May. 8th, 2008 05:49 am (UTC)
Whether you like it or not, we went into a country and we TOTALLY broke it. Shattered it, quite literally with all the different factions. I believe, in the end, the greater good was served with the removal of Saddam Hussein from power.

But now, we have a responsibility to leave Iraq a much better place than we found it. WE destabilized the region. WE have to be the ones to stabilize it again. The US Trained Iraq police and military and starting to act on their own and function. That's a step towards us leaving. Many Dems argue that we should just leave. All that would do is create a vacuum of power that would lead to someone even worse taking over.

I've heard no indication that McCain would continue our presence "indefinitely". On the contrary, I doubt he could get elected without a plan to get the US out in some timeframe.

I can't pretend to know much about McCain's finance plans, so I really can't debate there.
thisgirliknow
May. 8th, 2008 05:53 am (UTC)
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/06/mccain-permanent-bases/


he's since changed his public opinion, saying "the war will be over soon"
teenonfire4lord
May. 8th, 2008 05:58 am (UTC)
Well, there's a difference in permanent bases and a direct military presence. The US has bases in lots of Middle-Eastern countries. Pretty much ever country over there we have a good relationship with has a base. That's a security measure.

I doubt there will EVER be a day that there isn't one US soldier in Iraq. But, as far as "the war" (I personally feel the term is mis-used as we were at war with IRAQ and that enemy "died" when Saddam Hussein was ousted at the very latest, if not earlier), I agree with the Senator that we are closer to the end than the beginning.
madrigal
May. 8th, 2008 08:58 am (UTC)
IF McCain wins, I doubt he would run for a second term. He's getting too old.
reamens
May. 9th, 2008 11:21 am (UTC)
It's good to see that Obama is open to Hillary as VP. I think that will help, but didn't he previously say otherwise?
thisgirliknow
May. 10th, 2008 02:11 am (UTC)
He didn't say otherwise -- What had happened was...

Several months ago, maybe a little bit after Super Tuesday, Hillary said during a Q&A session that she wanted Obama to be her VP.

Obama responded in saying something to the effect of " what sort of place is this where the person in 2nd place can offer the vice presidency to the person in first place"

As far as I know he didn't say anything about not being open to Hillary as VP. I didn't think he had addressed it. I didn't hear that he WAS open to it either. News source?
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