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By DEFINITION, The average IQ is 100. If *everyone* gets smarter, the average IQ is STILL 100. 100 is simply the AVERAGE INTELLIGENCE QUOTIENT. If YOU maintain your current level of intelligence, and everyone else gets smarter, your IQ (technically) goes DOWN. The Intelligence Quotient is RELATIVE.

Am I not explaining it right? IS MY LACK OF LISP CONFUSING YOU?

IS MY ABILITY TO SPELL CORRECTLY THROWING YOU OFF TRACK?

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beetlebailey
Oct. 24th, 2007 12:50 pm (UTC)
In this case, no because it's a baseline scale for cognitive development and reasoning ability. The majority of the population is close to 100. This was how the scale was initially designed but if everyone gets smarter the scale does not adjust.

My mom was the staffing specialist for Leon County for 20 years and one of the people for determining the needs for exceptional student education, which includes the "gifted" program. I've asked her the same question.

beetlebailey
Oct. 24th, 2007 12:54 pm (UTC)
not to mention I guinea pigged a lot of different IQ tests for her. Which is interesting because I've bounced all over the board(the higher echelons anyway) depending on the test and the way it determines IQ. Though the MENSA test pegs me at 135, sadly I'm not cool enough to join their club. They've got a 150 IQ minimum for membership.
thisgirliknow
Oct. 24th, 2007 12:56 pm (UTC)
100 is the average. This is the definition.

I'm in Gifted and Mensa. I was also in a fake IQ club that I made up.
thisgirliknow
Oct. 24th, 2007 12:58 pm (UTC)
While the test may not reflect how it changes, I still maintain that 100 is the average IQ, no matter what.
brittdreams
Oct. 24th, 2007 01:30 pm (UTC)
Heh, your mom probably worked with mine at some point. And I agree about the bouncing around thing. I tend to be in the 125-150 range, depending on the test. But IQ tests are not that accurate, imo.
beetlebailey
Oct. 24th, 2007 03:36 pm (UTC)
I agree. I've run the entire gamut of 120-170(max for that particular test). The high score was a non-verbal tests that relied primarily on reasoning and puzzle solving. Looking back, that was a weird test, but at age ten it was really fun.
brittdreams
Oct. 24th, 2007 04:31 pm (UTC)
The ones that rely on reasoning and puzzle solving are the ones I do poorly on, actually. They are the reason I almost didn't qualify for the Gifted program in Leon County despite having skipped a grade.
thisgirliknow
Oct. 24th, 2007 04:38 pm (UTC)
gifted â¡ smart. Not saying that you're not gifted or anything-- just that skipping a grade/having knowledge isn't directly related to IQ (which of course, being "gifted" is certainly related to). In my opinion, anyway.

I hated sequences. I remember getting a "tsk" from my examiner when I told her that from the position of his legs, it looked like the burgler was climbing in, not out of the window. She pointed out that his bag had money spilling out of it. I personally don't understand how his sack was so full of money anyway, seeing as how the burgler was robbing a house, not a bank or other money institution.
brittdreams
Oct. 24th, 2007 05:13 pm (UTC)
It was more a problem of my 4th grade teacher thinking I was the dumbest kid in the class. But really, it was boredom. Everything I "learned" had been taught to me the year before.

I wasn't trying to say that IQ = smart. But, clearly someone who has skipped a grade deserves at least consideration for taking the test for entrance to the Gifted program. My mom (at this point in time a licensed school psychologist who administered these tests as part of her job) and my fourth grade teacher debated this back and forth for a few months actually. My mom won but mainly by threatening to get the school board involved since she still had contacts there. Had I not squeaked in, it would've been very embarrassing.

That is one of the many reasons I hated my fourth grade teacher. One day I will post an entry about her and all the mean things she did to me (such as how I was the only kid in class to get homework on the first day of school).
thisgirliknow
Oct. 24th, 2007 05:55 pm (UTC)
My fourth grade teacher was "the mean one" but she didn't seem THAT bad. And then she got better when she gave me a Babysitters Club book for "the holidays."

I don't see why the teacher would fight on allowing someone to be tested. That's idiotic.
brittdreams
Oct. 24th, 2007 06:10 pm (UTC)
Because she said it would be a waste of time, more or less. I just thought the whole thing was funny because a school psychologist would be doing the testing and my mom had a job as a school psychologist (though in Gadsden County) and a PhD in the field. But surely this lady knew better than her. Then again, she is the same person who made me sit with the disruptive kids and the class bullies. Every day. All day. Except when I got kicked out of class and went across the hall. She also never seemed to notice that I did all the work for the teacher across the hall when I was in that classroom. So basically, I did two sets of fourth grade work all the time. She never redeemed herself in my eyes. She couldn't have really.
tevarin
Oct. 24th, 2007 02:19 pm (UTC)
I have to agree with beetlebailey. Any given IQ test would only indicate an exact 100 average if the scoring was updated continuously to take into account the scores everyone else was getting.

Maybe we need two measures of intelligence. A Melissa-type relative IQ test to compare between individuals, and a fixed-score IQ test to measure whether average human intelligence has gone up or down compared to a baseline (say, 100 IQ as measured on American high school seniors in 1990).

I saw a cool article recently that credited an increase in average intelligence to the switch to unleaded gas in the 70's and 80's, since even low levels of lead cause brain damage.





"People who boast about their IQ are losers"
-Stephen Hawking

thisgirliknow
Oct. 24th, 2007 02:20 pm (UTC)
Psh. I don't boast.

IQ is supposed to be relative. This is my entire point.

What we need is for that to be correct, and you can add in the fixed score test if you wish.
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thisgirliknow
Oct. 24th, 2007 04:12 pm (UTC)
someone with a lisp and bad spelling.

that isn't on lj
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thisgirliknow
Oct. 24th, 2007 04:40 pm (UTC)
Our grading system has made C definitely no average, unless we're talking about a bell curve. But yes, by definition, C is average.
spf8
Oct. 25th, 2007 01:03 am (UTC)
hahahaha, funniest post i've read in a LONG time!!
thisgirliknow
Oct. 25th, 2007 02:28 am (UTC)
glad to entertain you ;)
silicon_jesus
Oct. 25th, 2007 10:42 pm (UTC)
I took an IQ test online in late 2005 and recieved a score of 132, enough to put me two standard deviations above "normal."

So lately I took the same test and two others and averaged 110. Have I killed that many brain cells? Am I really "dumber?" What's the deal?
silicon_jesus
Oct. 25th, 2007 10:44 pm (UTC)
Then I took another test today and I got 140.
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